Thread:StoryGirl83/@comment-24653168-20160102232834/@comment-3452092-20160115231835

I have been trying to decide the best way to respond to this and this is not going to be a short reply, because there are a lot of topics that need to be addressed. Please do not make any more edits until you have taken the time to read this. I will try to compromise where I can, but this is not going to be an easy conversation. It is however, necessary if we are not to be working at cross-purposes. And since I want you on this wikia as a contributor, it is best if we are not at cross-purposes.

As is previously stated in the rules, comics are a visual media and thus it is the images that are the most valuable. This means there cannot be too many images on here. If you want to represent a scene, use one image, preferably one that can do double or triple duty as a character image for that issue or maybe a power images as well.

I love you gifs, but they are going to need to be cleaned up. Get rid of all borders, make the images the same size and shape and make sure they are from the same scene. There is nothing currently in the rules about gifs, because there were not something I thought about, but there is something about the images should look and about how many images from one issue on one topic you should have. Gifs use up the entire allotment.

On that topic the only time you should ever have more than two images of a character, power, object, or location from one issue is if:


 * That character is using more than two powers and the images are showcasing the power.
 * The power is used by more than two characters and it is showing multiple users of the power.
 * The object drastically changes appearance.
 * The characters is background in a location images.
 * This it the only place in the entire comic series were that character, power, object, or location is ever seen. Excess images should be removed if they show up, again. And even then don't use all images of them unless there is only one.

The only reason I have as many images as I do is because Zenescope changes artists so often (not just here, but with all of their comics), and I think we should showcase the talent of the artists who work on the comics. Otherwise I would want even fewer images.

There are a lot images on this site which were kind of dumped here and never used for anything. I have left them up in case the person wanted to use them on their user page, however, I will not be doing that any long. If there is no specific reason for posting an image and it has not be used somewhere within a day, it may be subject to deletion. Images that do not meet the standards set in the rules will also be deleted. This includes images that have been altered in some way other than just being cut. This includes alternate colors, speech boxes removed (except when exempted in the rules), and borders around images (including the ones found by looking at the comics in an online comic reader).

I prefer pngs (mostly, because it's easier to remember if everything is the same), but other than the images on issue pages, I do not make an issue of this. The images on comic issue pages have a very specific naming system and should all follow that including being pngs.

Powers seem to be your main interest just as characters are mine, so let's talk about them next. First, it should go without saying that if the power is not seen being used in the comics, it should not have a page and if it not even mentioned it should not be on this site. If it is only mentioned, it belongs on the page, Powers Mentioned But Not Seen, with only information known from the comics. That includes description of what it does. If we don't know what the power is from what is in the comics, then we don't put it there. For anything on this page all we know is what is in the comics. The exception is when there is a canon name for the powers that is not mentioned in the comics. Fan made names, no matter how popular, do not count.

That brings us to the names of pages. If a character, power, object, or location has both a canon name and nickname, such as in the case of Prue Halliwell and Piper's "exploding" power, the nickname is used. If there is only a canon name or nickname, such as is the case with Piper Halliwell and her "freezing" power, the canon name or nickname is used. If there is no canon name or nickname for something, then a short description in plain English is to be used. For example if we were to make a single page for Piper's power then it would be "Manipulate Molecules" or "Molecule Manipulation" not "Molecular Manipulation."

As to where descriptions should be and this is all descriptions, not just descriptions of powers. They should be on the page for that topic. You would describe Paige on a page about orbing, so why would you describe orbing on a page about Paige. And the only place the powers should be in a list on a character's page should be in the infobox. Otherwise, they should all come up in the prose (unless the character lost the powers prior to the comics and has not gotten them back), then they should only be in the infobox and indicated that they are former powers.

All lists should be collapsible to as small an area as possible. They may default to open, but if they do that needs to be consistent across all pages.

If you want to emphasize something, use italics except where noted in the rules.

If a power is "Advance ..." then it should be described on the page that it is an advanced form of. A redirect page should be made using the name "Advanced ..." leading to the section of the page that talks about that part of the power, so that anyone looking for that can easily find it.

I noticed that you made a list of powers. While that is a good idea, I was stunned by the sheer number of powers on it and despite all of the Charmed I have watched and read, I hadn't heard of at least half of them. I counted them and there were 120 powers listed there. At the time there had been 38 issues. Do you have instances of each of these powers and the names for them from the comics? Please include references when you make pages for them, since powers not in the comics are obviously not allowed here. And make sure any powers that are in limited use are collected together on the Miscellaneous Powers page.

I noticed that you tend to capitalize power names along with words like whitelighter and elder. These words should not be capitalized. Please correct this.

Do not copy anything from another site, including any other wikias, word for word. I have noticed this with you as I have with other people in the past. This is absolutely not allowed. If you want to post something based off someone else's work on another wikia, reword it until it is yours. If I find massive amounts of content added to pages in very short amounts of time, I do a search. If I find results, I flag the page or sometimes change it right then. Someone put a lot of work into what they wrote. Their work shouldn't be stolen. I know someone who had their work on a wikia not only copied and pasted elsewhere, but the elsewhere was a book for sale on Amazon.

Finally, infoboxes. When I first made this wikia, I looked at infoboxes and I couldn't find anything I liked and so I started learning the code. Over the last five years, I have learned what I like and one of those things is the ability to only see things when I want to see them on a page. Because of this I started looking into how to make things collapsible. They are not exactly what I want, but they are a lot closer than what I started with. The infoboxes on the Charmed wikia have some things going for them, but I don't like how they go on and on and on.

However, I can look into a compromise there. Since it is possible to make the collapsible infoboxes default to opened or closed, I can look into making the design closer to the ones on the Charmed wiki, defaulted open, but still collapsible.

As to colors, I prefer the colors to stick with the blue and purple of the site. The grey I saw in one of them could work too, but I don't want any bright or super dark colors. I have a feeling you wanted a lot more colors than that, but if you would like subtle differences there are a lot of blues and purples to work with. Again, I asked for links. This was so that I knew exactly what you meant and not a general idea. There are a huge number of pages on the Charmed wikia and they have a large variety of infoboxes.

Any changes made here to the infoboxes will be made to its sister wikia (of which there are thirteen), since I want them all to look like sister wikias.

If there is anything on this that you don't understand, let me know and be specific. Quote if you need to. If you do not tell me you do not understand something, I will assume that you do understand it and react accordingly.

If you wish to debate something, please, let me know what and why. This does not mean I will change my mind, but if you have a reasonable argument that I can agree with, I will.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I think I covered everything, but if something else comes up we can cross that road then. I am sorry that this is so long, but there was a lot that needed to be said. I hope that when all is said an done you still want to be here and help out. Thank you for all of your interest here.